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The Job Search

Of course we all want to go to grad school to learn cool new stuff and further develop our skills, however I think the main goal for many of us this year is to get a job. That was my main goal at least.. (sorry professors if you’re reading this).

The recruiting process starts up in full swing right when school starts, and maybe even the week of orientation. There are events hosted on and off campus all the time by the Big 4 as well as many other public accounting firms. It can definitely seem overwhelming, but I’m going to offer a few tips I picked up along the way.

  1. Be yourself! Talk to as many people as you can and really try to find out where the best fit is for you. I know it can be intimidating at times going up to people you’ve never met and asking them all kinds of questions, but that’s what they’re there for! I can honestly say that everybody I met during the recruiting process was so nice and helpful.
  2. Practice Interviewing! The office of career management is there to help and they have some amazing resources. I was able to schedule a mock-interview with Steve Singer, the MAcc director of career management, and it helped a ton. Most of the interviews are behavioral based, and I had never done one before, so meeting with Steve really helped me to figure out what I needed to work on and to be more comfortable with the whole process.
  3. Have Confidence in Yourself! I think that this is a big one for many people. I would say 99% of the students in my MAcc program are very humble and don’t like to brag about themselves. The reality is, we are at one of the top MAcc programs in the country at one of the most well known business schools. We have already accomplished so much, and it’s okay to talk about your accomplishments! Employers are looking for you to talk about times and situations you have worked hard and succeeded so don’t be afraid to have confidence in yourself and what you’ve accomplished. Good luck!

The hunt for a Job/Internship

The biggest part of coming back to get my MBA was to pursue a different career than the one I was in. I knew the MBA program would help me make the switch but I was unsure what the process would look like. When would I start interviewing for Internships, what kinds of internships would be available, where would they be located and how much would I make?

The easy answer for all of these questions is: it depends. Marketing, logistics and most finance internships/jobs begin interviewing pretty early in the fall. Investment banks begin interviewing in December and consulting firms start the hunt for candidates in the spring. The experience for each and every one of my classmates has been very different. Most of my classmates have interviewed for multiple internships/jobs. Some have 4-5 offers from various companies, some received offers for their “dream” position and accepted right away and others are still on the hunt.

As for where are the internships and jobs located. I would ask you, where do you want to live? Odds are you will be able to find an internship/job in that location. A perk of coming to one of the largest universities in the United States is a HUGE alumni network.

Career switchers, it is possible. 90% of my experience prior to my MBA was in sales and I currently have multiple offers related to finance in multiple locations – exactly what I wanted.

As for how much you will make. I’ll leave that one to the office of Career Management.

The hunt for an internship/job is time consuming, fun, stressful and ABSOLUTELY WORTH IT!!!

 


FETCH!

 

One great thing about being in the MAcc program is that we have so many amazing opportunities to do community service and help others using our own knowledge. One community service event we do every year is helping young students learn more about how to manage their budgets. It is called FETCH!

FETCH! stands for Financial Education Teaches Children Healthy Habits. It is offered through The Ohio Society of Certified Public Accountants. It is a fun, interactive board game that teaches children in 5th and 6th grade about the importance of budgeting, saving and spending. I am very lucky to take part in the program this year.

We went to an elementary school near German Village. Students were very excited about the game and were very energetic. We spent some time to explain the rules and then the game started! We let them make their own decisions on how to spend their money first, and then we had little discussions. Volunteers, like me, led the discussions and helped students come up with strategies on how to avoid the future risk. It was so much fun teaching them how to make investments but at the same time save them some money in case of an emergency. I really enjoyed taking a break from all the group assignments and midterms. I love talking to them about what accountants do and who they are. It was a great experience!

Students are trying to make decisions on how to spend their money.

Students are trying to make decisions on how to spend their money.

 

Stephanie Lewis, MAcc Tax Professor, is leading a discussion.

Stephanie Lewis, MAcc Tax Professor, is leading a discussion.

 

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The winning team and the volunteers!

 


Ohio State Thanksgiving Dinner

November 26th, my roommates and I joined the Ohio State Thanksgiving Dinner. It was a wonderful experience.

As there are thousands of students who took part in this event, the dinner was separated into two sections. We could choose either to have dinner at 11:45 a.m. or at 2 p.m. Tickets are required, but we could get them for free at the Student Union.
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When my roommates and I arrived at the Union, I found it was decorated with a welcome board and some special designs, which created a festive atmosphere.
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At about 11:30a.m. We saw the volunteers of the Ohio State Thanksgiving Dinner. And then the “Turkey”. The “turkey” was very cooperative and made many funny poses as people took pictures with him. It was a funny but really cute “turkey!”
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When we were waiting in line, we met many of our friends. It seemed that the Ohio State Thanksgiving Dinner was a popular event as so many people came. We waited for about 20 minutes and then we got into the Archie Griffin Grand Ballroom. Volunteers were already there. With the volunteers’ help, we came into the room and sat down. During the speech, I learned that the dinner has been held for more than 10 years. No wonder they can arrange thousands of people and make sure that everything was in order.

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The food was great, too. Beans, turkey, potatoes, and pies……all kinds of traditional Thanksgiving food.

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After dinner, there was a board outside the room to write down what or whom we wanted to thank. I wrote down my thanks to my roommates because with their company and help, I did not feel lonely as a student – one who had left family to study alone in a different country. We then signed our names on the board and took a picture. I thought it was a meaningful picture because it was such a memorable moment.

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I really appreciated the Ohio State Thanksgiving Dinner as it created a special memory for our Thanksgiving holiday. And I really want to say “thank you” to all of the volunteers, who made this event such a success.


Wrapping Up First Semester

It’s hard to believe, but my first semester of the MAcc program here at Fisher is winding down. Unfortunately there is one thing in the way before everyone can go home for break and enjoy time with friends and family – final exams. I thought it would be helpful to give a brief overview of what types of final assignments/tests I have so those interested in the MAcc program can get a better idea of what to expect when finals come around.

  1. Professional Research in Accounting: This is one of the four required accounting courses. Throughout this class we have been learning how to do accounting research using several different sources and then had to use this research to complete group research papers. For our final assignment, each student was presented with several paragraphs of information about a company and we have to use accounting research tools to answer several accounting-related questions about the company. This assignment is to be completed outside of class and individually.
  2. Tax Accounting 2: This is an elective accounting course. During this class we have learned about the federal income tax treatment of business corporations and partnerships. Throughout the class, most of our assignments have involved reading the textbook and completing practice problems to obtain a better understanding of the material. We have an in-class final exam that covers all of the material we have learned throughout the 7 week course.
  3. Assurance Services and Information Quality: This is an elective accounting course. In this class, we have been focusing on the role of assurance services in enhancing the quality of information for financial decision making. We have completed numerous group case assignments throughout the 7 week course. A portion of the final exam is an individual take-home assignment, and the other portion is an in-class final exam.
  4. The Business of College Sports: This is an elective non-accounting course. Throughout this class we have learned about the OSU athletic program from a wide variety of speakers as well as taking tours of several athletic facilities. A couple of weeks ago we took an individual final exam in class that covered all of the material from throughout the semester. In addition to the final exam, the class is split into teams, and each team is required to do a 20-30 minute presentation on a topic of their choosing related to college sports.
  5. Negotiations: This is an elective non-accounting course. During the semester, we have developed our skills to become more effective negotiators. Much of the class has been spent getting to actually negotiate with our classmates. Most of our assignments have involved preparing for in-class negotiations and completing assigned readings. For our final exam, we have an in-class exam covering the topics we have learned throughout the semester. We also have a group paper due that we must complete with our teammates from a negotiation that took place over 3 different class days.

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Thanksgiving Dinner

On the night of 26th, November, my host family invited me and some other Chinese students for a Thanksgiving dinner. It was the first time I spent Thanksgiving day with an American family and I took a close look at how they celebrate the holiday.

After about half an hour’s drive, we finally arrived at our host family’s house. When we arrived, many people had already been there. Actually, there were about 15 people in the house. Because our hostess, Hyesuk, was Korean, she prepared not only traditional American Thanksgiving food such as turkey, pies but also some delicious Korean food for dinner. Guests also brought some dishes. For example, I brought tofu and chicken. A Chinese family brought a bottle of wine. Hyesuk put all the dishes in the kitchen so that we can pick up whatever we like. We also shared some wine and several good conversation at the table. By the way, the dessert was really delicious!

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After dinner, we played some games. One of which was called pictionary. We were separated into two groups. One person in the group picked a card and drew a picture about the word on the card while the rest group members had to guess the word in 60 seconds. I had played this game in China and it was one of my favorite games.

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We also shared some family stories that night. For example, Bob, showed us a pair of shoes that was worn by 10 of his family members. He also showed us a special clock. See the picture below, can you tell what time it is? It must be difficult as the clock was opposite!

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The day after Thanksgiving Day, when I was on the coach bus to visit my cousin who lived in Buffalo, a lady who sat next to me asked what I thought about Ohio. I told her I liked it very much because people here are so nice and warm-hearted. I was deeply touched by what they did for me and actually I have already considered it as my second hometown now. Sometimes when I think about leaving one day to go back to China, I get upset since I would miss the people I met here and the experience they brought to me.


The Dab !!!

The game of football in itself is exciting enough as it stands. Being a buckeye and loving the game of football….adds a notch to that level of excitement because….The buckeyes are just awesome. Now here is where things go from being exciting to outright dangerously exciting. You’re a buckeye fan, you or someone in your family attended the (yes I said “The”) Ohio State University and have known the Michigan (the M is crossed out here theoretically) Rivalry. I am building up to something here. So let’s continue…right, you are a buckeye fan, you have “hypothetically” attended the University, You love football (cannot forget that), and maybe….just maybe, you grew up in Ohio…..

Let’s see I grew up in Ohio, attended the University as a young (okay smart) undergraduate, currently attend the university as a graduate student, happened to play football in high school and happen to love football in general. So that means that I am on that dangerously excited level, especially when the buckeyes went to that school up north and not only got the V, but did so in a matter befitting the Buckeye way. I think I almost lost a vocal chord watching the game this past weekend. And they thought they could deter us by locking the OSU players out of their rooms. Tsk Tsk Tsk Michigan (my apologies for not crossing out the M).

Now let’s get to the real exciting story here. As long as athletics have been around the players have always gotten the accolades and come up with the dances. Lo and behold it seems the scripts have changed and now the coaches are partaking in the dance celebrations. The man up there in the picture, ” the man, the legend, the Urban legend,…..” has crossed that threshold and performed the dab and I could not be more excited to see it. Let’s examine the player to his right and you can almost feel the excitement. Now as I sit here and prepare for the finals and an end to this first semester, I am starting to think of what dances I can borrow when I finally do to finals what the Buckeyes did to that school up north.

The Dab,
Yours Truly, Didier H.


How to Pick your Second Semester Schedule

The Ohio State MAcc program is unique in the fact that the university operates on a semester schedule, yet the MAcc program offers half-semester 7-week session classes. This means that when students enroll in classes, they will enroll in the next two 7-week session’s courses! While this quick rotation through classes keeps MAcc students refreshed on course topics, it can complicate how students schedule for their final semester schedule.

Your first half year in the Ohio State MAcc program is fairly structured as each student is required to 3 of the 4 required core course in the first two sessions. This simplicity, combined with terrific guidance from the MAcc advising staff, makes scheduling for the first two sessions a breeze (even though students are not even on campus yet).

It is the second half-year scheduling where things become a little more complicated. Normally, second semester scheduling windows open sometime before Halloween; this means that students have had roughly 10 weeks to get acclimated to the MAcc program and its courses prior to having to select your courses for your final semester!

While this might seem stressful, it is actually a very exciting time. Since there are so many elective course offerings, the Graduate Programs Office hosts a lunch where professors of second semester courses come and talk about their course topics and expectations. The purpose of the lunch is to help students choose which classes would be best for them. Aside from attending this lunch, there are other keys to take away the stress of scheduling that I have learned by finalizing my schedule.

The keys to take away the stress of scheduling are:

  • Make sure you have met all of the program requirements
  • Talk to professors to gain more information about their classes
  • Make a primary and a backup schedule
  • As soon as your scheduling window opens, SCHEDULE! Classes are assigned on a first come-first serve basis based on when your scheduling window opens.

While you will have a lot of decisions to make regarding which courses to enroll in, take comfort in the fact that all the professors in the MAcc program are the very best that the Fisher College of Business has to offer. Any class you choose to take while in the MAcc program will be interesting, engaging, and fulfilling!


What is a cohort?

A quick search on the internet reveals that it is a group of people who have something in common. Being in the MHRM program for only three months, I emphatically declare that this is a pale definition of my experiences.

About a month ago, one of my classmates included me in the group text that is shared by most everyone in the class. I am still grateful to her for inviting me to participate in it. It is primarily used as a social network for us to contact each other and ask questions. Lately, we have received many texts regarding an onslaught of birthday wishes to classmates. Each birthday wish submitted becomes more and more amusing. This also supports my earlier claim that there is definitely a culture of support and encouragement within our class. It is truly wonderful to be immersed in that enthusiasm.

Recently I posted a text stating that I am thankful to be a part of such an amazing group. There are certain people that I absolutely love listening to, when they present, because I learn so much.   also find it fascinating to observe the improvements that many of my classmates have made with respect to their presentation style. Coming from a performance background (in music), I feel comfortable presenting. The difficulty for me lies in translating a performance ability into a presentation ability. The distinction is important and I have slowly been working on adjusting it. I have not been entirely successful, but I will get there! The classroom is a superb proofing ground for the business world. It is meant as a place to refine skills, if you allow it to be. I am not the best presenter, but I acknowledge the feedback from my peers, teachers, and experiences to be better. Ultimately, my cohort is there to help make me better and has always supported me in my development.

Finally, the cohort structure provides access to a wealth of experiences on which to learn and share. Recently, I asked one of my peers, who hosted a conference, to help me with a proposal that I have to spearhead a conference with my company. His input was well received and extremely helpful.  My classmates will become my professional colleagues after we graduate, so it is crucial to also develop your professional network through interactions with your peers. Take the time to get to know your cohort!


Taking the GRE/GMAT

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Most graduate programs require some form of standardized test as part of their application process. Fisher’s MHRM program allows applicants to complete either the Graduate Record Examination (GRE) or Graduate Management Admission Test (GMAT). Most MHRM students complete the GRE, however, I would encourage people to investigate each exam and select the one that is more aligned with their strengths.

Make sure to schedule for the exam well in advance because there are times where you may have to wait a few weeks before getting an appointment. Once you have scheduled your appointment, I would recommend giving yourself 4-6 weeks of preparation time to study and review. There are a lot of great resources available, so I would highly recommend visiting your local or school library, bookstore(s), and the test website. Each of these offer different tools that can help prepare for the exam, whether it’s a prep book, flash cards, or practice exams.

I would also recommend looking at the class profile of the program of interest to gauge what is considered a competitive score. If you choose to take the exam more than once, the highest score will be taken into consideration and should be the score recorded on your application.

No matter what though, be confident in your abilities. Also, be mindful that applications are reviewed holistically, so I would recommend ensuring you put forth the time and effort to write essays that showcase who you are, your strengths and abilities, and why you are interested in Fisher. Furthermore, choose references that will be able to speak about you, personally, and your ability to excel in graduate school.

I do not consider myself a strong standardized test taker. Nonetheless, at the end of the day, all one can ask from themselves is to do their best. Prepare, relax, and be confident!


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