Fisher MBA Opportunities for Law School Students

My Fisher experience is a little different than most other MBAs. Directly after graduating college, I enrolled at the Moritz College of Law to pursue a J.D., with the hopes of being a lawyer. After my first year of law classes and my internship experience working in a law firm, I discovered that practicing law was not something I wanted to do. I felt a little “stuck” in a program that would not present the type of opportunities I was looking for upon graduation. When I discovered Ohio State offers a dual-degree JD/MBA program, I was immediately intrigued. Coming from a business-based undergraduate program, this seemed like a logical next step. Still, I was little hesitant about adding on another year of school. Now, almost one year into the MBA, I could not be happier with my decision.

I have enjoyed every minute of my time at Fisher. The classes are interesting, the professors are engaging, and I have met some really cool people. Classroom discussions are engaging, with a good mix of different viewpoints being adequately represented on every topic imaginable. The environment is extremely collaborative: students are more than willing to work with each other and help everyone out. Even though my peers are competitive in classes and internship searches, everyone is genuinely interested in their each other’s success.

One of the most memorable experiences I have had at Fisher so far was the ability to participate in the ULI Hines Case Competition. The competition allowed me to write pro-formas for a multi-billion dollar mixed-use real estate development project. I was on a team of architect students, landscape architect students, and city planning students to help bring an idea of a development to fruition. The project was two weeks long and extremely time-consuming, but gave me insight as to what it’s like working with others in a simulated development project. Additionally, I was able to network with many in the real estate development industry in Columbus, as professionals served as mentors throughout the process. Being on the winning team of the Columbus competition was a plus as well.

I was able to work with the Office of Career Management to secure an internship at L Brands in its Real Estate division—something I want to do in my future career. Plus, I have a great opportunity in the GAP program to travel and work in Kuala Lumpur, Penang, Bangkok, and Shanghai in May– and I could not be more excited for the opportunity.

As a member of Ohio State’s JD/MBA Class of 2019, I know I will be more than prepared to face the world. I cannot thank Fisher enough for my experiences here, and really have thoroughly enjoyed getting my MBA.

My Top 3 Memories at Fisher

As my two years at Fisher comes to an end, I can’t help but reminisce on the many experiences I’ve had while completing the Full-Time MBA program. When I first began the program, all the second-year students would say, “Enjoy your time. It goes by fast!” and I would just smile and think, “yeah, sure,”as I could only focus on my seemingly never ending to-do list of homework assignments.  Now that I am one month away from graduation, I finally understand.  It really does go fast!

So naturally, as I become sentimental and reflect on the last two years, I have to share some of my favorite moments– with photos!

#1 – Meeting my Core Team

So, this was slightly awkward at first. We all sat in silence for the first 10-15 minutes of meeting.  But now, we are actually the best of friends!  We look back on that day and laugh.  You become very close with your core team throughout the program and I am thankful to be graduating from the program with friends who feel more like family.

 

 

 

#2 – KeyBank Case Competition

There are numerous opportunities for development while at Fisher, and one that I feel helped me the most was competing in case competitions.  There are both internal and external case competitions and my favorite was the Key Bank Case Competition.  Working closely with this team was a great experience that challenged me to explore outside of my comfort zone and provided me the opportunity to work with two students who have now become close friends of mine.  Plus, we placed in the top 5!

 

 

#3 – UTSAV

Fisher has a diverse class of students and throughout the program, there are numerous opportunities to engage with individuals from different backgrounds and to celebrate their cultures.  UTSAV does just that! UTSAV is an event held by the Fisher Indian Student Association (FISA) in April each year and involves both faculty and students.  UTSAV shares Indian culture with the Fisher community through Bollywood music, Indian dance performances, delicious Indian food, and some fabulous entertainment.  “UTSAV,” which means celebrating life, is a manifestation and celebration of the diversity within the Fisher community.  I performed last year with my core team and had so much fun! I’m looking forward to attending this event again next week.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A Typical Day for a Graduate Administrative Assistant

As a graduate administrative assistant (GAA) for the SMF program here at Fisher College of Business, I’m often asked by students to explain my experience working for the admissions and recruiting team– specifically how I earned the role and what I do. Here’s the information:

Part of the GA crew!
Part of the GA crew. That’s me– third from the left. Also pictured from left: Thais Ronconi, Michael Mahoney, and Danny Chehade.

All admitted applicants to the SMF program are considered for a GAA position. Applicants do not have to complete any additional essays or interviews to be considered for a GA position. The positions are typically merit-based and provide a 50% fee and tuition waiver in addition to a monthly stipend. Students with a GAA position typically work 10 hours per week. There are also very rare 20-hour per week, fully-funded GAA positions. As you can imagine, there is a very limited amount of funding available for these positions and the selection process is quite competitive. Again, you’re considered automatically once you’re admitted and you’ll be advised if the admissions and recruiting team wants to award you with a GAA role.

All GAAs work in the Graduate Programs Office located in Gerlach Hall 100. I’ve always found it convenient because all my classes are located in the same building. The 10 hours per week are typically split into two- to three-hour shifts throughout the week.

On a typical day, I come to the office and spend about 45 minutes to an hour answering emails and phone calls from prospective students interested in applying to the SMF program. I also often meet with students currently studying at Ohio State who wants to know more about what the SMF program offers.

Another aspect of my position consists of welcoming students wishing to visit Fisher for a formal visit. After having a first contact with the student, I set up and plan the visit. The day of the actual visit usually consists of me taking the prospective student to lunch with another current SMF student, going to one of my classes, meeting with faculty and staff, and going on a tour of the Ohio State campus.

This is just a short list of what I may do on a typical day. The goal is for me to support the admissions and recruiting staff in any way needed so that they can find and accept the best students for one of the best SMF programs in the country!

Columbus Staycation

Over Spring Break, my parents made the drive from Oklahoma to Ohio to see me for a few days!  I showed them many of the sights of Columbus, and with some time off from school I got a chance to really enjoy everything myself.

One of my favorite things that we did together, was attend a Blue Jackets game.  For anyone who doesn’t know, the Columbus Blue Jackets is an NHL team that plays in Nationwide Arena in downtown Columbus.  This was my very first hockey game to attend, and it was a ton of fun (it doesn’t hurt that the blue jackets beat Montreal 5-2)!

 

We also made a trip to the Columbus Convention Center, where we saw the statue of Arnold Schwarzenegger, and also stopped at a very cool piece of public art that is housed in the convention center.  It’s really fun to go to with friends and see how goofy your picture turns out.  What’s really cool, is once your picture is taken it’s sorted into a database with everyone who has ever taken a picture there and randomly displayed from then on!

Finally, we made a trip over to Easton Town Center to do a little bit of shopping.  Easton is a really cool outdoor shopping complex with tons of great brands to choose from and also a really fun atmosphere to hang out in during nice weather.

 

All in all it was really fun to get to play host to my parents, and to get to be a tourist in my own city for a little bit.  It was a great reminder of how many different fun things there are to do in Columbus!

To Work or Not to Work

The million-dollar question:

Should I go directly from undergrad to grad school, or should I work first?

If you’re asking yourself this question, rest assured you are not alone. It feels like I’ve been having this conversation a lot lately with juniors and seniors who are grappling with the question of “what’s next?” Of course, the decision for everyone will be personal and will “depend” on many factors. But we hear “it depends” too much already in my opinion, so I thought I’d outline my thoughts around what, exactly, it depends on.

It depends on… the job you want.

When I was considering grad school and what program/course of study would best fit my goals, I found it really helpful to work backwards. I sifted through LinkedIn and Indeed and other job boards to put labels on the types of work in which I was especially interested. Then I looked at the “required and desired qualifications” to see what combination of education and experience I might need to get a foot in the door.

And it depends on… if you are competitive for the job you want.

HR is an attractive field for many reasons: the opportunity for frequent personal interactions, the excitement of varied work and the notion that “no two days will be the same,” the ability to design and improve processes that directly impact employees, for better or for worse. One of my favorite quotes from MHRM senior lecturer John Schaffner: “HR is the ethical heartbeat of the organization.” HR professionals hold power and are expected to wield it humbly and responsibly. All that said, you can imagine why HR is a difficult field to break into with little experience.

Several years ago, there was a trend toward the grad-school-right-away path.  A master’s degree allows you to differentiate yourself against candidates with more work experience. These days, it is much more common to see language like “master’s degree or bachelor’s degree + 3 years work experience” in a job posting. In fact, The U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reports that future demand for master’s level degrees is rising. By 2022, the number of jobs requiring a master’s degree is estimated to grow by 18.4%. So, in some companies, a master’s degree is sort of a barrier to entry. You need the degree plus work experience.

It also depends on… the industry and size of the organization you want to work for.

That being said, some organizations–middle market, start-ups, and not-for-profits, for example–may struggle to pay a competitive wage for a master’s-level HR professional, and they specifically target folks with less education and experience whom they may be able to attract with a lower base salary but robust benefits package – like more vacation, flexible/remote working, autonomy. In other words, the size of the organization, type of HR position, and specific industry in which the company competes will greatly influence what level of education and experience is required. Important to note is that these positions may be slightly more difficult to come by, given smaller organizations have much smaller HR departments with fewer openings.

Of course, these are just some strategies I used in my own process. I hope these are helpful thoughts to chew on as you consider what decision is right for you and your career goals–and remember, it’s okay if your path is different. 🙂

 

 

 

 

 

Columbus Stay-cation

Over spring break, my parents made the drive from Oklahoma to Ohio to come see me for a few days!  We spent a few days seeing the different sights in Columbus, and it was really great to have some time off from school to enjoy everything Columbus has to offer!

A view from out seats in the arena

One of my favorite things that we did while my parents were in town was attend a Columbus Blue Jackets game. For anyone who doesn’t know, the Blue Jackets are a NHL team that plays in Nationwide Arena in downtown Columbus.  It was my first ever hockey game. I really enjoyed the atmosphere and the game (it doesn’t hurt that the Blue Jackets beat Montreal 5-2)!

On our next day, we had lunch at the North Market, and then walked over to the convention center.  We stopped and saw the statue of Arnold Schwarzenegger, and then made our way to a really unique piece of public art.

My dad posing with Arnold, he says the only difference is Arnold is a “little taller”

This is a really fun place to get your picture taken with your friends and then laugh about the goofy results that come out.  What’s really cool is that once you get your picture taken, it goes into a database and is randomly displayed on the statue from then on so you can always have a little piece of you still in Columbus.

Exhibit A of the goofy pictures that the statue will put on display of you

On our last day, we made the drive across town to Easton Town Center.  Easton is a really cool outdoor shopping complex and provides a nice outdoor atmosphere.

All in all, it was a great couple of days. It was nice to be a tourist in my own city and to remember all the fun stuff there is to do in Columbus!

A Classmate’s Top Three Recommendations for You

Recently, fellow MAcc student, Rachel Cox, interviewed me for my thoughts on the MAcc experience. Now, it’s her turn to be “in the hot seat”! Hopefully, she can help you better understand the MAcc Program as well and why you should apply.

Rachel Cox, MAcc program
  1. Where are you from? 
    1. Hayesville, North Carolina. It’s a small town in western North Carolina.
  2. Where did you earn your undergrad degree?
    1. I earned my undergrad at the University of North Carolina (UNC) in Charlotte. I originally picked UNC for its engineering program, and then found myself in an “intro to accounting” class. After this class, I decided to double-major in accounting and finance.
  3. What brought you to Ohio State?
    1. After visiting the university and meeting with the faculty and staff, I knew I wanted to attend the MAcc program at the Fisher College of Business. The program structure is incomparable to other MAcc programs. All MAcc students are only required to take four core classes and the remaining classes are electives. This structure allowed me to take courses outside of accounting with non-MAcc students, which I believe is very beneficial to my learning experience and career. A second main feature that attracted me to Fisher is the University and atmosphere of Columbus, Ohio. Having always lived in North Carolina, I was ready for a change of pace and location. Moving to a new location (and not knowing anyone) has been an enriching process. I have been able to challenge myself academically, while continuing to grow as a person. I have also met amazing friends and peers.
  4. What’s your favorite class in the MAcc program?
    1. My favorite class in the MAcc program was Professional Research in Accounting, taught by Professor Turner. In this class, we conducted research in Financial Accounting Standards Board (FASB) and auditing standards within the PCAOB. This class taught me how to properly research accounting topics and interpret the topics, which is a necessary competency when working in accounting.
  5. What’s your favorite place to be on campus?
    1. My favorite place lately has been the circuit classes in the RPAC or North Rec gym. These classes have an instructor who also plays music in coordination to the workout. This is a nice break from the academic life while staying healthy.
  6. Any recommendations for future students?
    1. Come to the program with an open mind and don’t be afraid to engage in student activities.
    2. Don’t stress over the little mistakes in your classes. Everything will work out in the end.
    3. Take advantage of all the resources on and off campus in Columbus.

I would like to thank Rachel for taking the time to be interviewed and sharing all her insightful experience with us. Making the decision to come to Fisher and join the MAcc program is one of the most important decisions that I have ever made and I am grateful for it. If you have any questions, please feel free to email fcob-fisher_macc@osu.edu to get connected with one of the graduate administrative ambassadors. 

 

A Fellow MAcc Student Shares Her Experiences– and Advice

The application process is over, and now, you’re wondering if Fisher College of Business is the right choice for you for a MAcc program. I interviewed a fellow co-worker and MAcc classmate Jiajun (Jasmine) Wei to gain valuable insights into her background and why she decided to come to Fisher.

  1. Where are you from?
    1. I originally came from Harbin, China.
  2. Where did you earn your undergraduate degree?
    1. Augustana College, Illinois. It’s a small liberal arts college located in Rock Island, Illinois.
  3. What attracted you to Ohio State and the Fisher College of Business?
    1. Well, the MAcc program at Fisher College of Business has a great reputation and an outstanding academic ranking. The curriculum is designed with 75+% electives which allow the students to customize the class schedule and explore the areas that interest them the most. Unlike some other programs, the MAcc program does not ask students to declare the specific focus at the beginning of the year. Therefore, the students have a lot of time to try different classes and find out what they are actually interested in.  In addition, since OSU is such a big university, there are a lot of resources on campus to help students succeed. For example, the Office of Career Management has a dedicated career counselor for MAcc students.
  4. What’s your favorite class in the MAcc program?
    1. I actually have two favorite classes. One of them is a core class that’s about managerial accounting and taught by Professor Arya. He is very knowledgeable and I feel like he is not only teaching the material, but also teaching us a way of thinking. His class is very interactive.
    2. Another class that I like a lot is the Fraud and Asset Misappropriation class taught by Douglas Huffner. He is also working in the Risk Management Department. His class well prepares students to face  potentially controversial situations in the workforce. The discussions are very meaningful and insightful.
  5. What’s your favorite place to be on campus?
    1. RPAC and 18th Avenue library (I like the sauna room in RPAC the best!)
  6. Any recommendation for future students?
    1. Everyone, including your classmates, is a resource for you.
    2. Make sure to utilize all the resources.
    3. Make connections with recruiters and professors.

I would like to thank Jasmine (pictured below) for volunteering her time to be interviewed. It’s been a great year to meet new people and gain friendships through class.  I can ensure all future students that the decision to join the MAcc program at Fisher is a great one!

Jiajun (Jasmine) Wei

 

A Second Chance

During my undergraduate program, I was both an accounting major and a member of a non-business honors program. As such, this made my academic life very broad. Even though I was in business courses, I also got the opportunity to take philosophy courses, women’s studies, and a plethora of others. While I did enjoy this, I felt like I was missing out on a lot of business courses. It’s hard to take business electives when you have so many humanities courses. Coming to the MAcc program was like getting a second chance to explore business courses. Specifically, some of my favorites like Financial Modeling, Financial Statement Analysis, and Fraud. Let me share my thoughts on each!

  • I’m not even sure if my undergraduate school offered a financial modeling course. This course was great because it followed Finance 1 and 2 in the first semester and really reinforced the concepts for me. We got to work pretty heavily in Excel and build valuation models based on cases. The professor had just come from almost a decade in investing, so he was able to focus the course on real-world applications.
  • Financial Statement Analysis is not an easy class. If you’ve never even heard of financial statement analysis as a concept, it’s even harder. However, I didn’t let that stop me from registering. This class was really cool because we got to dig into– surprise– financial statements! As a future auditor, I was under the impression that audited financial statements should not be changed around. Imagine my surprise when we started reformulating the financial statements and coming up with different numbers to answer different purposes. Now I have an even deeper understanding of what goes into the financial statements and how stakeholders use them.
  • Out of all the classes here that I was excited about, Fraud was at the top of my list. We got to learn about the different types of fraud, how people get away with them, and how to test for them. The professor always had great stories to illustrate his points and brought in guest speakers to help out. He did such a good job of teaching us how to commit fraud that the second half of the course – ethics – is basically a follow-up of why you shouldn’t commit fraud!

My advice to incoming MAcc students, especially if they are not from OSU, would be to use their electives to take courses they’ve never been exposed to before. A class may seem intimidating or hard, but you only have one year in the MAcc program. If you’re anything like me, this may be your last chance to take these interesting electives before you become a professional. Use your electives; don’t waste them.

Global Business Expedition (GBE) – Spring Break 2018

Everyone loves Spring Break– the perfect week to enjoy right before craziness sets in with projects, exams, and papers due before the academic year ends. Each student’s experience is different. Some students in the MBA program embark on a Global Business Expedition (GBE). GBEs are short-term, high-intensity global programs where students travel on a private tour to visit globally successful, multi-national companies, as well as the must-see historical sites of the region. This year, Singapore and Israel were on the list. I decided to interview two of my classmates, Andrew Page, and Carl Shapiro, who visited Singapore, and Israel, respectively. Continue reading to learn more about their journey and enjoy the beautiful sights!

Andrew Page
First-year Full-Time MBA student with a focus on marketing

  • Why did you choose Singapore for your GBE?

AP: I chose to go to Singapore for several reasons. First, I have never been to Asia and I felt like I would be able to get a great experience with many different cultures in a short amount of time. Secondly, this GBE was focused on experiences with doing business throughout Asia and we had opportunities to meet with companies that had operations in Singapore and throughout Asia.

  • Who else was on this trip with you?

AP: There were 25 other students and two faculty members.

  • What were some memorable experiences that you would like to share?

AP: First: the food! We tried all the great food that Singapore has to offer and although it may seem weird that this is such a memorable experience, it is such a unique part of the culture throughout all of Singapore. Everyone has food recommendations for you whether you ask for them or not.

Another memorable experience was visiting the different culturally-specific areas, for example: Little India, Chinatown, and Arab Street. It felt like we were walking into a different country when we went into these areas, but at the same time the cultures were so integrated with each other. There were Chinese jewelers selling to Indian customers in Little India and an Indian clothing shop owner selling Islamic clothing on Arab Street. It was just so unique to see these cultures intertwine.

Finally, I was able to interact with a lot of people with whom I have not had time to spend before. Out of our group, the majority were in the Working Professionals MBA program, so I was able to speak with them about their experiences and make some great network connections. I was also able to spend a lot of time with our faculty member and get to know him outside of the classroom setting.

  • Was there anything that you did not expect or would have done differently?

AP: I did not expect the opportunities that were available to us as students in that part of the world. There were many instances where we were able to make connections for future opportunities with the companies we were meeting.

  • Would you recommend others to join the GBE next year? 

AP: I would recommend GBE to every student who can do it, and I might try to do it again next year!

Carl Shapiro

First-year Full-Time MBA student with a focus on marketing and brand management

  • Why did you choose Israel for your GBE?

CS: The focus for my career is marketing and brand management which has a strong relationship with the culture in which the brand is doing business. Israel is unique in that the domestic market is too small to support a major company on its own, so as a means for survival, Israeli firms have to export and market themselves in foreign markets. To be on the ground and start to understand the strategies that these firms develop is incredibly powerful.

I also have a personal relationship with Israel, having family there. I am personally invested in the success of the country. I think the unique aspects of Israel– bringing the Hebrew language back to life, establishing the first independent Jewish state in 2000 years, and transforming a desolate environment into fertile land– show what grit and hard work can accomplish.

  • How many students/faculty were on this trip?

CS:  I went to Israel with Oded Shenkar (faculty) and there were nine students on the trip.

  • Any memorable experiences that you would like to share?

CS: Some of my most memorable moments were interacting with Israelis outside of the corporate environment to develop a deeper understanding of their culture. By spending my free time out in Tel Aviv on the beach, or in the markets of Jerusalem, I could really get a feeling of where the entrepreneurship begins and what makes the Israeli condition so relevant to the success of disrupting technology. In the corporate environment, we had the opportunity to talk to the leaders of the businesses we visited, the decision-makers at the highest levels. Because Israel’s culture is so casual, we were encouraged to ask probing questions and get very honest and valuable answers that in the United States might not be possible.

 

  • Was there anything that you did not expect or would have done differently?

CS: I would have liked to have more time for one-on-one networking with some folks from the different companies. Many of the companies we visited introduced us to several high-level managers, but we didn’t have the opportunity to hear them all speak, and it would have been helpful to break out into smaller groups or have unstructured time when we could focus more on the things that interest us with someone from the company who also shares that interest.

  • Would you recommend others to join the GBE next year? 

CS: I absolutely recommend the trip. The reality of the closeness of the Israeli economy with the American economy means that if you work in tech, you will encounter an Israeli firm. It can be an incredible asset to understand the differences and similarities of the two cultures to get the most out of the relationship.